Why Cant Both Be True
The fall of Deshaun Watson is endlessly fascinating in a morbid way. This past week, in a press conference after another dismal performance, Watson called out the fans who had been booing him. He claimed it was personal, not based on his performance. Honestly it might be the first time since the scandal that he seemed to acknowledge the main reason people dislike him, even if he was coy about it. He’s right. We boo Watson and cheer his demise. We do so because we have a very low opinion of him as a person.
At the same time, he’s also wrong. He fucking sucks at football. If he didn’t suck at football, there would be less booing. There might be very few boos, relatively speaking.
I sometimes think about an alternate world where Watson pulled a Roethlisberger and actually stayed good at football instead of becoming the greatest black hole in sports. He was the center of a bidding war for a reason. Watson got that contract for a reason. The Browns sold their soul and traded their reputation as lovable losers for being the most despicable garbage dump. For some, Watson would never be forgiven. But for many? If he played well? It would be an often-brushed-over footnote in his legacy.
You can see it with Big Ben. That turd took the Steelers to a Super Bowl and played elite-level ball for half a decade longer, and Yinzers ate that shit up. His transgressions would never get mentioned by announcers or commentators. It was up to regular people like you and me to keep the flame lit. Roethlisberger wasn’t even a “cool guy” off the field. He was a noted dick and nobody seemed to like him as a person anyway. He still got away with it because he played good football. The Hall of Fame isn’t going to mention the bathroom incident on his plaque, and he will be cheered at his induction speech.
When Watson went to Cleveland he was cheered by a portion of the fanbase, and a large portion of those still skeptical would have come around to tolerance if he balled out. It’s just an unfortunate fact. All Watson had to do in Cleveland was not suck and be humble. This was a good team he joined, just two seasons removed from a playoff win. Instead, he seemed to lose all interest in being a football player to begin with. I don’t know what is going on in that building. Watson is not the answer and it was clear years ago. He doesn’t seem to care. If he does care, and this is him putting effort in, his regression should be studied.
Now Watson sits at the bottom of the reputation pile. He has to know it. He has to know that a legion of fans will never forgive him, and that those who would have also won’t forgive him because he couldn’t even be bothered to do the one thing they needed from him to look the other way. There is simply no reason for anyone not to boo. So yes Deshaun, we are booing you for personal reasons. You’ve given fans nothing else to cheer for except your demise.
EDIT: Oh my god they named him the starter this morning
My guess is the Browns know how little value he has, so they’ve decided to give him a joke of a last shot so they can pivot and bench him early on for Shedeur as a face-saving move instead of risking them having to bench Shedeur for Nasty Man


I would love a breakdown of cost per touchdown thrown / yard passed / game won just to see what “value” that dickflute has provided.
$20,379,173.67 per win
$9,653,292.79 per touchdown
$54,505.96 per yard
Based on totals for stats and total cash earned as of the end of the 2025 season.
Thanks I hate it.
I periodically rewatch Tom Grossi’s video where he’s playing a deeply conflicted Browns fan reacting to the news of the trade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMhZY9gNbmw
…and this particular quote keeps coming to mind: “Nobody’s going to be talking about this in two years if he start winning… which I feel like is worse.”
That Watson hasn’t just been bad, but outright godawful, a liability to the team in just about every game he’s played for the Browns is exactly what everyone involved has deserved.
Also, Shadeur Sanders’ comment on this is just… either its the most tonedeaf nonsense to ever be uttered, or its some utterly brilliant sardonic commentary, and I’m legit struggling to figure out which it is:
“Yeah, I mean, in general, I don’t appreciate that at all,” Sanders said, via the transcript distributed by the team. “Regardless of competition, we’re all human beings. I think we all need to understand that. In this room too, we’re all humans. I don’t do things to humans that I wouldn’t want done to me. I don’t like making people feel uncomfortable in different spaces, and that’s why, even in daily things I do, I try to make sure everybody’s comfortable.
In defense of Sanders, it’s his teammate and he doesn’t want to get in trouble. It sucks but what are you going to do?
“I don’t do things to humans that I wouldn’t want done to me.”
Maybe that energy should go to someone else other than the fans.
Sounds odd but you could even read it as a veiled criticism of Watson lol
It’s really interesting how much emotion gets tied up in these situations, especially when players respond defensively. I can see why the booing would be so hurtful for him.
Those fans helped pay the $230 million he got for doing jack squat. He needs to fucking get over himself.
The best part of that press conference is that he’s asked if he regrets coming to Cleveland and he says “there’s nothing in my life I regret”
You sure about that? Nothing?
Then he goes and blames God, going off about how God puts him in tough situations to prove himself. I’m not here to crap on religion; if you believe God gives his followers challenges, I can respect that, but God doesn’t make you despised because you’re a sexual predator.
Deshaun is absolutely wrong. The fans were totally willing to accept the personal matters when they thought he was good.
He just got named the starter HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Damn, you beat me to it!
By the way, the deal would still be bad for the Browns if Watson was simply ok. He’d need to play at least as well as he did on the Texans, possibly better
You gotta feel bad for the Browns fans, though. They’ve been put through so much hell and it never seems to stop.
43 year old fan who was literally caught in an Orange and Brown blanket when I was born: I quit.
At this point I am obviously not their demographic, which is the Epstein Class.
Additionally I think this team is an extreme exercise in Embarrassment Kink Culture, and I’m just not that person.
Fewer
the character in the comic would probably get it wrong, tho
There’s no guy more annoying than the guy who gets mad at slightly incorrect grammer in casual conversation
The guy is a giant boo boo.
It feels like the Browns were hoping he’d be their Trautmann success like it was for Manchester City if you know what I mean.
If you’re curious, Qxir’s video sums it up better than many had. People often kinda downplay the guy’s past…
If it’s not about performance, why weren’t the fans booing his first two years when the accusations and the settlements and the complete lack of even the most milquetoast PR-firm-drafted contrition were even fresher?
This is because he has sucked and is sucking and the team has been financially and draft-pickly crippled on top of it. All this is about is performance.
Mutiple sports anchors on all platforms were going off on the Browns today for naming Groper Cleveland the starter. It’s crazy, I havent seen this many commentators forgoing professionalism to sound off in a long time.
Cleveland is getting butt-slammed.
The elephant in the room is the Browns made the bed, he got in, then they got in. Then, as they both looked lovingly into each other’s eyes, they all got diarrhea and started pooping… just… just EVERYWHERE. The bed, the sheets, the floor, parts of the walls… drenched in diarrhea.
And now both he and the team are stuck lying in this bed, full of liquid diarrhea poop. And nobody can get up, because the poop is the wet slippery kind that if you try to stand up, you’ll just slip, fall, and get even MORE of it on you.
It’s HILARIOUS how many Dan Orlovskys and Chris Florios are in the world proclaiming the Browns need to cut him immediately. LOLOLOL. They’ll take a $40m something hit for the season, and I think they said the entire dead cap hit would be around $140-160m. They’re not cutting him. And they’re not benching him. They’re going to do the Brownsiest Browns thing they can do, and pretend he’s GREAT, and that the money was TOTALLY worth it. Ownership is fully in Face-Saving mode right now.
I certainly understand the DISAPPOINTMENT from people that he’s still on the roster and being named a starter despite being a terrible person AND a terrible quarterback. But it’s just not gonna happen. The way Monken was talking so glowingly about Shedeur… I think there’s more than a good chance HE wanted Sanders to be the starter, and was told, “Nope. That’s too much egg on our face to admit this was bad. We need to lie in the diarrhea bed, TODD.”
*Takes Bow* We are The Aristocrats
I have a feeling if he was better, the mental gymnastics would be “oh we’re cheering on the DEFENSE, we support Garrett/Chubbs, not Watson”
Watson was owner Haslam’s decision as was that monster guaranteed contract that pissed off the other owners.
He gave all of that up and what did he get ?
A sucky oft injured player who has given the team nothing.
Meanwhile the team lost 3 1st round pics and can’t cut the guy due to the massive cap hit.
Meanwhile their best players have bailed.
This is Haslam trying to save face but I think it’ll blow up and he’ll suck and Shadeur will be starting.