Vote For The Issues
Of course I finally came up with an election joke the week after the election. Oh well.
While watching the Saints slaughter the Bucs Sunday night there was a particular moment when all of sports twitter sighed in unison. It was 4th down. The Bucs were on the goal line. They used their last desperate chance in the game to throw a lame fade to the back corner, which was easily defended. Bruce Arians and his fancy offense came to the most important throw of the entire game and they called a goal line fade. What a waste.
Anyway I made a snarky tweet about voting for any candidate who will end goal line fades and someone pointed out that was ESPN’s Mina Kimes gimmick so now you have a comic about Mina Kimes getting my vote. Added in are two other plays that ruffle my ridges: 2nd and 10 runs, and my own personal nemesis – the 3rd and short pitch play.
Let’s start with the Fade. Since she is the star of this one, I’ll link Kimes herself shitting on the fade. The fade is an annoyingly common and irritatingly inefficient play. If you see a team get a 1st and goal inside the 5, chances are very good you’ll see one attempt at a fade. Teams know how to defend it by now. It is meant as basically a low-risk play. It takes zero time to execute and basically puts all the pressure on the QB throwing the ball so the WR can jump up and grab it, then toe tap. There’s little risk of double coverage or the play breaking down because the QB dumps it immediately. Thing is, unless you got yourselves a real tall boi receiver like Nuk or Julio, it usually just…doesn’t work. I’m far from some offensive expert but to me it feels like the most effective goal-line pass play usually involves a tight end/RB or maybe a slot receiver sneaking out parallel to the line and the QB dumping it before coverage can react. Using the Giants/TB game two weeks ago as an example, the Giants actually did this exact play on the 2pt conversion but because Daniel Jones is a bum he waited too long to throw it and it got defended instead of being an easy catch. I don’t know how to design those plays or why they work, but it always looks so easy when done right. Even when done perfectly, a fade looks like it’ll fail every time. I’ll admit I have a fondness baked in nostalgia for the fade though, it used to be Eli and Plaxico’s bread and butter. But Plax was tall as hell, and as soon as he shot himself off the team and Gilbride started calling fades to the likes of Cruz, or Steve Smith, or Nicks, or even OBJ later on, it just didn’t work. You need a big tall boy. I’m fine with the fade going away. It isn’t even that fun to watch, it feels like a low-risk waste of a down.
The 2nd play we can complain about is the 2nd and 10 run. This one has become the bane of statistical nerds as of late. Basically the team gets no yards on first down, so they decide to run it on second down, which almost inevitably gets maybe 4 yards, and then you’ve got 3rd and just long enough to be annoying. I think the stat people hate it for the same reason they hate the fade: it’s too conservative. It’s like “hey, we don’t want 3rd and long, so lets get 3rd and slightly less long”. The probability gods want you to go for it. Even a checkdown will probably land more yardage than a 2nd and 10 run. I don’t hate the 2nd and 10 run as much as most, but I can see the argument against it. Problem with this play is that it feels like it might depend on your team’s strengths. I trust Dalvin Cook on a 2nd and 10 run more than I do David Johnson. I trust Russell Wilson passing on 2nd and 10 far more than I trust whoever the Cowboys signed off the street to play QB this week.
The real play that rustles my jimmies and the secret reason I made this comic in the first place so I’d have a place to bitch about it, is the 3rd and short pitch play. I fucking hate this play. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen it this year, and I can’t remember ever seeing it work. The first two plays I mentioned are hated because they are low-risk, conservative plays that aren’t fun and don’t really increase your chances that much. But they do help. The fade does give your team a low-risk chance to score. The 2nd down run does make it slightly easier on 3rd down. The 3rd down pitch play doesn’t do that at all. In fact, it makes everything worse, for no reason. It makes it so that instead of needing your RB to gain one or two yards for a first, they now have to gain roughly 5-6. Maybe more. When you are one yard from a first down, why the fuck are you pitching the ball backwards and off to the side away from your main blockers so that the runner now has to either bolt for the sideline and pray the outside WRs hold their blocks or wait patiently as the lineman get into place to open a hole. No matter what, the RB now has to gain roughly 5 yards for a first instead of 1.
Why do coaches keep calling this shit? Unless you have very athletic lineman who can get over to the side fast enough to pancake the DBs and outside linebackers or an exceptionally fast ball-carrier who can turn the corner quickly or juke like a motherfucker, this play is almost always dead in the water. If one defender sheds a block the ball carrier now has to spend precious nanoseconds dealing with that threat, giving the rest of the defense time to catch up and fill the holes. When you are that close to a first, the answer isn’t to go backwards first. The answer is to push. Most RBs can reliably gain a yard or two, even if your line sucks. You just gotta get enough push to open a slight hole and hope the RB can churn out some legwork. It can go through any of the gaps in the line. DON’T INSTEAD SEND THE BALL BACKWARDS.
The absolute worst iteration of this, that I’ve seen MULTIPLE TIMES this year, isn’t even just a pitch play on 3rd and one. It is a pitch play to the short side of the field, which practically negates the one advantage the play has: getting the ball into space. If the ball is lined up on the left hashmark, don’t call a fucking pitch play to the left side of the field you imbecile. Jason Garrett called this at one point and I almost flipped my desk. I kind of understand the pitch play as a 1st or 2nd down test that can work if used sparingly and you have the parts. But most of the time I see it get stuffed, or the guy gets shoved out of bounds at basically the line of scrimmage.
I’m not a big football brain who studies the stats because numbers are for nerds so who knows, maybe the play is actually an effective play by AdVaNcEd MeTrIcS. But like most people on the internet, I feel like I’m right about this. Fuck the 3rd and short pitch play.
Back when I was very new to football I used to think that pick six was the name of a specific offensive play that for some reason went wrong an astounding proportion of the time. I could never figure out why a coach would call it.
Remember when the Browns fished for media leakers by suggesting they were going to interview Condi Rice for DC, and her response was she’d never run prevent defense? Good times.
The play that makes me want to pull my hair is the dumpoff throw on 3rd and long. A team needs, like, 15 yds to get the 1st down and the ball is thrown 1 yard past the LOS, and it’s up to the receiver to figure out how to gain the remaining 14 yards. Especially when the QB don’t seem to read the field and throws to a RB/WR in the vicinity of a linebacker ready to tackle the guy.
Depending on the situation at least this one makes sense. Better to dump off for 3-4 yards and punt away then risk taking a sack or throwing a pick in tight coverage. With that said I do agree that some Qb’s just seem like they want to get off the field when they do that.
THIS
Oh my God I got Joe Flaco PTSD just from reading this
Many times the dump off pass is due to the first, second, and third reads being covered. Better to dump it off than to take the sack.
It worked once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgRIsjzJCk0
My most hated play type may be specific to the Falcons but since 2008 in the red zone we turtle up. Tight 2 or 3 TE formations when our bread and butter is skill positions on the outside. It’s why Falcon teams have historically been great in yardage and not as great in scoring. It’s why Matt Ryan’s and Julio’s TD stats don’t jump off the page.
I mostly blame the offensive coordinator’s Mike Mularky for Ryan’s first 4 years, Dirk Koetter for 2, Shanahan for 2 (We scored a lot), Sarkisian for 2 (We scored a lot his 2nd year), Now Dirk Koetter for 2 more. For 2/3rd’s of Ryan’s Career he has had terrible coordinating. It’s an old school mindset and really explains the jump in scoring across the league over recent years because younger Coordinators are treating the red zone like the rest of the field because they realize 7>3.
at least you have a serviceable tightend in hayden hurst since tony gonzalez
I’d add Agent of Chaos’ dumpoff play to the list personally, but you pretty much nailed it. Also, my wife loves boba tea. She actually caught that in the comic.
The absolute worst subset of the 3rd-and-short pitch is a jet-action pitch on 3rd and short. If you’re gonna pitch it out to the motion side anyway, why not just run the jet sweep? You’re assuming the defense will bite on the jet-action, so presumably both you and they think your offensive line is good enough to move the pile laterally and open up that hole.
Like you said, I think goal line strategy is more dependent on personnel than most coaches are willing to allow for. If you’ve got a jump ball artist, then a back shoulder fade is a good play. I do agree that a front side drag or shallow cross are the best pass plays to run on the goal line, assuming you don’t have specialized personnel. Refs don’t like calling the OPI on rub routes, and it gives you the opportunity to just plant one in your receiver’s gut for an easy catch. And if the defense pulls the safeties forward to stop it, you’ll still have two guys in the back of the end zone, and probably another one in the flat on the backside of the play.
Last year I took to calling that jet-action pitch the Freddie Kitchens Special, although I think most Browns fans would have said that was a jet-action shovel pass, since they ran at least one a game and it never worked.
The 3rd down pitch play reminds me of Alex Collins who was a ravens running back in 2017 and harbaug calls this pitch play and it failed
But it doesn’t he switches sides and get’s a touchdown
heres the clip https://twitter.com/NFL/status/947616346673594368
Whatever’s become of the fade, I still think that’s what Seattle should’ve called on the Butler interception. Play-action fade, instead of whatever it was they called.
Also I agree that it depends on the personnel you have but also on the defence you’re facing. You should always run on 2nd and 10 against Miami, for example. You got a pretty decent shot at 3rd and short.
Also the stretch run on 3rd and short and dumpoff to the covered guy on 3rd and long were Gase’s favourite plays in Miami and they drove Dolphans crazy and I hope it’s doing the same to Jets fans
I used to hate the 2nd and 10 run.
But the team I follow has a running back named Dalvin Cook, so I’d MUCH rather see a run with him, than a poor pass from that other guy.
I will vote for anyone that eliminates the 2nd and 10 run play, even if they ignored the others. My goodness, I am so tired of watching teams go 3 and out because they found themselves in 3rd and 8 or 9 because the defense knew the coach was the type to call the 2nd and 10 run so they just sat on the run. Bruce Arians calls that AT least twice a game, and they always get burned on it. It’s usually the 3rd or so drive before the Buccs get moving because of Bruce’s run-run-pass-punt nonsense the first few drives. The saints seem to have only recently bucked the mindset of running on 2nd and long after running on 1st and 10.
I don’t really wanna see the game turn into college football, but I admire the way Andy Reid has been calling it lately. Pass pass pass all three downs if he has to. He knows Mahomes will find someone more often than not and keep the drive going.I know Mahomes is an exceptional QB, but I do feel like most in the league are good enough to keep drives alive when given enough chances like that.
I will vote for anyone who thinks the NFC east should be distributed in a draft(Sorry Dave)
Relegate the NFC east, and bring up the SEC west
Add Bama, Clemson, and Ohio State. Maybes; UGA(on a good year), Florida, Michigan(on a good year), Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma’s Offense + Georgia’s defense(on a good year). Yes I’ve put so much thought into it and I know no one will care because this is going up around 4 hrs before the next comic.
I have a crush on Mina Kimes; she’s so pretty.
Anybody calling a pitch play to the short side obviously never played Tecmo Super Bowl and that person should not be coaching.
Prove me wrong (protip: You can’t)
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Hot take with Jones, as a Giants fan, what do you think the future of QB is for the team?
If we dont win another game I think we fire Gettleman and probably take Fields. Jones has the talent but he’s indecisive and dumb, he’s not good enough to elevate the team around him. We need a better QB if we are going to get out of this hole.
I don’t hate him, but I don’t see him getting much better.
so his ceiling is journeyman backup?
The only short-yardage pitch play I’ll defend is the option pitch/QB run, because the option play aspect means all the defensive players on that side of the field can do everything right and still lose. Leaving the ball in the QB’s hands means the DBs on that side can’t just bail on coverage and block the run, the linebacker on edge contain is screwed by the option, and a half-decent crossing route can give the safety something to cover.
Basically, it’s predicated on the Mike/QB spy/opposite-side safety not reading the play or not beating traffic to get in position (or David Johnson not fat-fingering the damn pitch), while a normal pitch is predicated on everybody making their blocks. Which is exactly like a normal run, except you go backwards first for some damn reason.
I have PTSD from watching years of Mike McCarthy forcing stupid pitch plays that got negative yardage what feels like 9/10 times. Once in a while, there’d be a serviceable gain, but it was rare.
I agree the pitch play is terrible, for the reasons you stated.
But for the other two, I have to disagree for a simple reason. If you NEVER run fades, the defense knows it, and now they start cheating inside a little bit, making slants, ins and drags tougher. I think even if you hate fades, you have to put one or two on film just to give the defense something else to think about. But run it with a tall guy with decent hands, even if the only guy you have like that is your 3rd TE.
The play I would throw in the trash is running from shotgun. The RB gets given the ball with absolutely no forward momentum, slightly later than he would receive it on a standard handoff from under center, and it gets eaten alive more often than not. It also tends to dictate which direction it’s going to go before the snap. Is the RB on the left side of the QB? Then they’re running right. This is way too much advantage defense to even be feasible.
I’d like to add that the invention of the pistol formation has removed a lot of the downsides of this concept, while also making it easier for the QB to keep their eyes downfield while faking a handoff, making play action workable in a shotgun-like formation.
I also hate draw plays when they get overused. I think 2nd and 10 is a decent time for a draw play, but ONLY if the defense isn’t expecting it. Draw plays in general should be limited somehow. I’d say no more than 2 per game, which seems reasonable for a single game, but if you’re running 2 every game, that might still be too many.
The draw play is also one of those plays that should NOT see more use if it is successful. If you’re having success on draw plays, you’re probably running them the right number of times already. If you’re not having success, you’re probably running the play too much, or in situations that are too obvious. 3rd and 25+ and you’re okay with the punt? Here comes a draw play, and everyone knows it.
If you never run from the shotgun, then the defense automatically knows you’re passing when you line up in the gun, and doesn’t have to worry about defending a run. Granted, there are times when you don’t really care that you’re telegraphing a pass play (5WR with a non-mobile QB for instance), but just never running from a particular formation has its own disadvantages.
For the issue of the side of the RB dictating which side they’re running, you can do counter runs from shotgun from time to time in case the defense starts cheating to the opposite side of the RB a little too much.
Fuck the pitch play